Topic: Voting and How to Sort Through The Crap!

You know it is a shame that we have to deal with mud slinging and everyone pointing out where the other has failed or cannot do this or that. We look at the news and some are expressing their own political views by not reporting both sides of things. We have people we trust repost articles with verifying the information is correct and some of us fall victim to this as well because it was from a trusted friend that they would not lie to me.

Well your trusted friend my not lie to you, but may have been swayed incorrectly and they repost and in this way things start to get all twisted.

First I say to everyone no matter what party you are for register to vote and vote. Next check all sources. I like to look at the news on television, check on factcheck.org, SNOPES, and other sources.

If you speak another language look and see what is being reported in other countries. Check out what others think looking from the outside in and what they are hearing. I can tell you that you can start defining what is true and what is not.

Whenever there is something ask who is it good for and in there you will more than likely find your answer. I believe educated people ask questions and they use reasoning and can come to a logical conclusion.

Now me and I know it does not mean all that much, I do not like lables of Liberal, Concservative, Democrat, Republican, or other when it comes to our country. We are supposed to be Americans and as Americans come together to solve a common problem.

Then I say once the lections are done and if the person you did not vote for gets into office, well they are in office. They were elected by your fellow Americans. So, do you continue to fight because you did not get your way, or do you say OK, here are the issues that I think are important and to get in there and not only complain, but have a solution as well?

How can we expect the people on the hill to work together when we cannot come together? Sometimes we have to have someone that is going to be the adult and say OK, lets stop the bickering and get to solving things!

I am the first to say that I would never dream of telling someone HOW to vote; however I will tell them simply TO vote!

I am more than willing to enter into a rational discussion of the issues; but will withdraw the minute anyone starts bickering and slinging mud. (I would rather see that at a bar with women in bathing suits lol;) ).

Now if you do NOT vote, you do NOT get the right to complain about the result. Too many people paid the ultimate price for our rights to vote.

If you did vote, and didn't like the result, simply work with the people voted into office to voice your concerns and realize that the election was held in an ethical manner (I hope).


Ok I am off my proverbial soap box now.

I don't usually comment on political discussions, and I am pretty much an All-American City Girl with Country values, but in my opinion, I think politics has become a dirty sham. Politicians can't get their main Agendas across without some PAC's support. Sometimes, I see people selling out just to be able to get one item passed and compromise can become a dirty word. Politics has turned off many would-be great candidates with the mud-slinging, search in your closet until you find something and make it all about that, you rub my back and I'll rub yours, but really, we only take care of our "own" when it suits us mentality. Some of the best people won't run for office because of the fund raising logistics and backstabbing crap they have to endure to get elected. Sometimes I think we would be better off with politicians who have no access to the internet and TV and who have to travel by train across the nation giving Stump speeches. And yep, I am a registered voter and the last election was the first time my son was in the United States and got to vote. It was a family affair to have my son and daughter with me and we all voted.

John, you know there have been some people that I have tried to enter rational conversations with and it was either think my way or the highway and there was no room for any other view or opinion.

I have a friend that says when it comes to religion and politics that he stays out of it because it only leads to trouble.

Mine is the same as yours though, I will not tell you who to vote for just get out and vote. I also ask that they inform themselves and if they read something and think it is true, they may want to check all the sources to ensure the thinking is based upone sound information.

I was in a discussion with an individual that never served, but was doing a lot of slamming and then he touched upon the military and I get very thin skinned and he was saying that we took sides and I said as individuals maybe, but as an organizatioin we are bound by the orders of the officer appointed over us and the Commander in Chief.

So, I told him I hear the complaints so what it the solution and of course it was more complaining and no possible working solutions.

Yes, a lot of people forget that their freedoms came at a price to some and that there are those that are committed to protecting them even today!

I am with you Mindy. I have written in with some other veterans that say all political figures on capital hill should be limited to 2 four year terms and then back to the working world.

All lobbying entities should be restricted from capital hill and any issues they have be put before the people to be voted on at the same time as we are voting for the candidates.

Stop all campaign contributions and the media give egual time to candidates such as 5 minutes.

There be one Internet or TV station where the people can see the issues that are up for vote and be able to look in on our elected official and see how they voted real time.

Last but not least do away with the Electoral College. It was good for its time, but if there was ever a time where a seat can be bought this is the place. $271 million is nothing to some of these organizations. Give each person a million just to check another block. Hummmm, what would be the penalty if caught? Maybe a $20,000 fine, well do the math!

Al Gore won by popular vote of over 500,000 votes, but lost in the Electoral College. Now that scares me and this was not the first time as it has happened. Here is a credible link that talks about the process. You can draw from it what it means to you. www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/