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Oct 08
2009

A new spin on child-proofing your sales techniques

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Posted by: Tara Smiley

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I admit it... I shamelessly took my children (4 year old twin girls) to shop one of my property's competition this weekend.  I told them we were pretending to get a new house and that they needed to be mini-inspectors like their mom and check to see if the apartments were "good".  In my kids' minds, things are either "awesome", "fine" or "crappy"  - just to pre-warn you.

Comp #1 featured a comparable rental price and quare footage, but horribly worn berber carpet that according to my oldest, looked like the "crappy sidewalk" by their favorite park.  This comment went unchallenged by the leasing agent.

Comp #2 featured a higher rent, less square footage, but big money amenities  on the property and in the unit itself.  The leasing agent completely neglected my kids on this tour, refused to ask their names and even told them "Now don't touch anything, girls."  My kids' reaction "I don't like her face."

Comp #3 was beautiful.  Aggressively priced, good floorplan, great property and an excellent customer service standard.  Completely catered to the girls.  Right until we walked into the apt. that this leasing agent said "You guys are going to love it.  Plenty of room for Nada and Frankie {my girls' stuffed panda and dalmation} to play!"  Nobody could get past the smell of mildew, damp, and obvious hidden water damage.  My youngest said the apartment smelled like poo.  At which point the leasing agent completely lost his cool and said "Sweetie, why don't you just let me talk to your mommy."

At this point you may be wondering why I blatantly used my children to evoke reactions in this shopping trip. The answer?  I seem to get the most candid and transparent reactions.  Yes, I used my children to see if the properties were "child proof" in their ability to cater to ALL their prospects, not just the ones with an active credit score.  And I would (and probably will) do it again.

And what did we learn?  Parents pay attention.  No different than speaking to just one member of the couple that walks thru the door.  Or refusing to acknowledge a pet that someone brings with them to the appointment.  If you want to sell, then sell to every aspect of your prospect.  You sell to their needs, wants, potential concerns, etc., so sell to their lifestyles, families, friends and whoever else joins them in their shopping.  If you don't, you may just get the thumb's down from two four year olds, whose final pronouncement was "Mumma, those places were crappy crap!"  Couldn't have said it better.  Now if only they could type this blog themselves.


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written by Heather Blume, October 08, 2009
Tara, I love this blog post! I'm going to reference this in a session I'm teaching on leasing next week. Excellent experiment!
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written by Tara Smiley, October 09, 2009
Thanks Heather! The experiment was lots of fun and yielded interesting results once we returned home. Both of the girls (and myself) walkd through our house with a new sense of appreciation... pointing out various items in our house and property that the comp's were lacking.
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written by Sara Morrill, October 09, 2009
What a great idea! I agree that it's super-important to remember to address *all* of your prospect's needs, not just the ones that are familiar and/or comfortable to you. I know that not everyone loves children and I wouldn't require someone who's essentially a stranger to coo and aww over my own little 'un, but outright ignoring him and his place in my life would be a big no-no.
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written by Rose M, October 13, 2009
I like your ideas, but I'm concerned about what fair housing and the labor board would say. Our local laws prevent children under 18 from even being at home during 'office' hours if the office is in the manager’s apartment, because it's against child labor laws. So of course we aren't permitted to take them along on shops while we are working either.

As the leasing agent, fair housing laws require us to treat everyone 'exactly the same', so I'd hesitate to cater to children on their level. Managers have faced huge fines and even criminal prosecution for doing so.
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written by Sara Morrill, October 13, 2009
@Rose: That seems like a misapplication of fair housing laws. Missing the spirit of the law in favor of following its letter, you know? Treating everybody fairly is not the same as treating everyone the same. For example, if you were leasing to a potential prospect in a wheelchair, you'd probably want to point out the accommodations available for the resident - where the handicapped parking spaces are located, wheelchair ramps and handrails, etc. You're tailoring the experience to a difference that has a meaningful effect on that person's experience of your community and it's not wrong (or shouldn't be) to capitalize on that.

As to whether mystery shoppers should take their children along - well, that's a separate issue (child labor laws, etc.). As long as you as a leasing agent aren't enabling in favour of or against families, I should think that it's perfectly fine to engage children as children.

And if it isn't ... maybe we should change that.
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written by Sara Morrill, October 13, 2009
Make that: "As long as you as a leasing agent aren't *discriminating* in favour of or against families, I should think that it's perfectly fine to engage children as children."
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written by Tara Smiley, October 13, 2009
I should clarify here a bit and thank you both (Sara and Rose) for the feedback.
I am not a leasing agent. I am simply one of those people in our industry who tivo's everything industry related, feels like i am on first name basis with various people on mfinsiders (yes, your names come up over dinner), and shops comp's (for fun!smilies/wink.gif) on my off-time. I do it to improve my skills, if nothing else.
@Rose - I hear the concerns re: child labor laws. No argument there. But I do not believe the issue specifically ties to this experience. As for fair housing issues, my point was to cater to the prospect. If the prospects comes in wearing an environmental t-shirt, recycled handbag and what i recognize to be shoes that once were tires, I will comment. Consider it rapport building. I do the same for any resident, prospect, detc. that walks through my door. My point was simply to evolve your sales pitch to the future resident, and not forcefeed your standard spin. Thanks for the feedback, truly. It's always great to see reactions that I didn't anticipate or even consider!
@Sara - I may reconsider taking the girls next time given their request to have nametags and be called "Inspector". Might give me away too easily.smilies/wink.gif
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written by Rose M, October 13, 2009
I completely agree, Fair Housing does misapply their laws, and especially the fines associated with not following them to the letter (tens of thousands of dollars.)

Even their wording states we must treat everyone not 'fairly', but 'exactly the same'. They are quite strict here, so we are not able to tailor each tour to the prospects individual needs. I am very fortunate that I passed my fair housing shop with flying colors, but guess why? Because I didn't treat a handicapped visitor any differently from a non-handicapped visitor (I did not point out available accommodations.) I treated both prospects 'exactly the same'.
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written by Tara Smiley, October 13, 2009
Rose - I think your comments are SPOT ON! Treat the same and win the lawsuit. When i first started out in the industry, the fair housing laws really threw me for a spin. They almost seemed to fly in the face of what I thought was good salesmanship. However, I was given direction by a supervisor that was very simply, succinct and which made sense to me. "If you go out of your way for everyone you meet in this industry, you will succeed in sales, rapport, teambuilding, and the only thing you will be accused of is a fantastic level of equality by way of excellent service."
Treat the same. Always. In All Areas. But not in a minimalistic fashion and not by exclusion of your appropriate attention.
Love this dialogue!
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written by Sara Morrill, October 13, 2009
@Rose: ...sorry, I'm having a bit of a headdesk moment here. Really? Seriously? That's not what Fair Housing was intended to do. It's so frustrating to me when laws that were created to attend to one injustice wind up creating so many further injustices through poor wording and a strict adherence to policies and procedures rather than the humanity of the people we work with and for.

Augh.

(Not that I blame you for any of this - you didn't write the rules, after all.)
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written by Rose M, October 13, 2009
@Sara, I know! I have that moment every time I have to repeat 'the tour speech' to everyone! Some people are in a hurry, some don't swim and have no need to see the pool, and of course, some would sure appreciate being shown accessibility features, but fair housing is just so 'to the letter' here. I've heard that my state (Oregon) has more laws regarding renting that all of landlord-tenant law in every other state combined. I'm sure that's an exaggeration, but seriously, it's a lot! And it changes every year.

Starting next year, landlords cannot charge any fees (none at all), and since we all have move in fees here, thats a huge amount of money lost by landlords. And we also must give 60 days notice if we want a tenant to leave, whereas a resident only has to give 30 days notice. It's hard to keep track of the changes.

I've had visitors from out out of state who were denied simply because they couldn't fill out the application completely. They just dont carry all the out dated information around with them. I think our application has over 75 boxes to fill in.
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written by Tara Smiley, October 13, 2009
@Rose - I'll be curious to see how smoothly the transition for your state in the new year - for both applicants, residents, and your company(s). Can't wait to hear the feedback.

!THanks for the discussion on this, people!
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written by Nathan Morgan, November 11, 2009
No one can deny the blatant honesty of children.
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