we have 486 apartments we use to have 14 in the maintenance staff we now have 8 we do all of the apt turnaround from wall repair, painting, plumbing,heating in winter,all the cleaning,all grounds work, all snow removal electrical work,appliance repair,daily and annual work orders and more. I have try to tell the director that we should have at least 13 or 14 in maintenance but he said that many for our apartment count is old school but I just went to a glass about improving vacancy turnaround and the instructor gave us staffing for an average housing authority and I took that and compared and we should have 13 to 14 in the maintenance have you ever heard that having 1 1/2 for every 50 apartments old school.