Topic: Vet says this is a mixed breed, thoughts on approving for an apartment?

Tricia Klemstein Stanley's Avatar Topic Author
Tricia Klemstein Stanley
So we have been having a trend of applicants asking to bring dogs that in our opinion are aggressive breeds but are bringing in letters from veterinarian stating the dog is mixed breed (for instance this one states it’s a Shar-Pei mix). How do you handle these situations? This is a grey area for us.
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Melanie Brown's Avatar Topic Author
Melanie Brown
But look at that face how can you deny it
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Alexis Maxwell-Blakely's Avatar Topic Author
Alexis Maxwell-Blakely
Well that definitely is a shar pei mix but the way genetics work the other part could be lab. If a vet has stated that it's not on the list I'd just accept them
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Melissa Maertens's Avatar Topic Author
Melissa Maertens
*Agreed- Shar Pei mix..
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Carol Ann Cordell's Avatar Topic Author
Carol Ann Cordell
Require a pet interview for every dog, not just the ones you think are aggressive and decide based on that. Not all “aggressive” breeds act the same and honestly that dog looks like a lab and shar-pei to me so it would just depend on its temperament
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Courtney Hayes Williams's Avatar Topic Author
Courtney Hayes Williams
If they lie on the application, the liability falls to them not the property. You did your best
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Colleen McDaniel's Avatar Topic Author
Colleen McDaniel
Any dog can bite. Liability is with the owner. Let them have their dog- if there’s an issue, you evict. Simple. That dog looks like a lover
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Cambria Satterwhite Darbison's Avatar Topic Author
Cambria Satterwhite Darbison
We don’t do breed restrictions any longer. All dogs must come in for an interview
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Crystal Theis's Avatar Topic Author
Crystal Theis
How to handle? Eliminate breed restrictions and put the responsibility on the owner. Period. Every dog is different. Judging personality based on breed is about as ridiculous as deciding someone’s temperament based on their race- totally antiquated and not productive or efficient for either party.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Annie Ledford's Avatar Topic Author
Annie Ledford
Yes, it looks like Shar-Lab. It’s always difficult. Good luck!
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Michelle Pyles's Avatar Topic Author
Michelle Pyles
Ughhh I hate that there is discrimination on certain breeds. There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Colin R. Ferguson's Avatar Topic Author
Colin R. Ferguson
I agree. Shar Pei mix. I would make sure all dog owners have insurance to cover a dog bites for the breed of the dog. Prepaid for the term of the lease.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Tricia Klemstein Stanley's Avatar Topic Author
Tricia Klemstein Stanley
Thank you all for the input! Minerva has passed a temperament test and she’s on board
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Cheryl Connelly Madden's Avatar Topic Author
Cheryl Connelly Madden
Liability is on the owner. Chihuahuas are the most aggressive of any animal on our property. They aren’t forbidden but they bite our maintenanxe people all the time. Lol! If they have documentation, believe them. If there’s a future issue and it’s proven they lied on the app, you can give them a notice to vacate.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Jessica Lynn Peacock's Avatar Topic Author
Jessica Lynn Peacock
I have a red nose pit whippet mix my dog is not aggressive in any shape form or fashion if they bring you documentation from a veterinarian stating it is not an aggressive breed you have to take it like the original post above the liability falls on the owner
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Sarah Boles Medrano's Avatar Topic Author
Sarah Boles Medrano
The scariest dogs on the planet are chihuahuas.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Rachel Lynette Payton's Avatar Topic Author
Rachel Lynette Payton
We accept them. I actually inform my potential residents that if the vet paperwork says “non-aggressive breed mix” I will accept the dog as long as the pet interview goes ok. The breed restrictions, in my opinion are basically bull anyway. I’ve had much worse experiences with small breed dogs than “aggressive” breeds.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Maria Johnson's Avatar Topic Author
Maria Johnson
I have had an English Springer Spaniel and now have a pure pitbull (rescued from the street). The ESS breed is supposed to be kid and family friendly. He bit everyone. My pitty is a lovely cuddle bug full of love. Do the interview with each dog, regardless of breed. BTW, I have never wanted a pitbull. I was biased against them as well. She has taught me it is the owners more than the breed for behavior.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Vickie Andreozzi Yost's Avatar Topic Author
Vickie Andreozzi Yost
a pet interview and enforcement of leash law. in my opinion most dogs are good some unfortunately have bad owners
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Jeff Morrison's Avatar Topic Author
Jeff Morrison
This subject kills me .... the fact that our industry is making blanket judgements on dogs based on appearance, breed and size...each dog is an individual, regardless of breed, size or appearance....we passed fair housing laws to end housing discrimination based on ethnicity, appearance, etc... we should do the same for our canine family members.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Courtney Maddox's Avatar Topic Author
Courtney Maddox
This dog looks sweet to me. Doubt that's helpful, but I'd take him :-)
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Gayle Glantz Sebastian's Avatar Topic Author
Gayle Glantz Sebastian
Check out Pet Screening for Multi Family. Pat Pinigis Patterson can help you!
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Chelsea Alise's Avatar Topic Author
Chelsea Alise
I think breed restrictions are ridiculous.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Lore Dunn Burchette's Avatar Topic Author
Lore Dunn Burchette
Me, also. The temperament of the dog depends on the owner. There should be owner restrictions
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Chelsea Alise's Avatar Topic Author
Chelsea Alise
My property and sister property are the only two in our entire town and surrounding areas that have no breed restrictions, we get so much business just because of that. All the "mean" dogs in my community are the micro fluffy ones. I was bit a few months ago by a Jack Russell.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Cristy Prisock's Avatar Topic Author
Cristy Prisock
I don’t guide my residents on what the vet documentation should or shouldn’t say. I have them sign off on the rental guidelines which include pet policy. I tell them I need vet certification. It would shock you what people will come back with when you don’t guide them and get honest answers from the vet.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Michelle Cornelison-Cruz's Avatar Topic Author
Michelle Cornelison-Cruz
Our pet policy States that, for instance, A pit bull or American Staffordshire terrier or any dog mixed with this breed is prohibited. That is how we handle it in our pet policy. Any dog mixed with a breed that is on our restricted list would not be allowed. Honestly like many of you I totally hate breed restrictions. It's all about the owner.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Cecilia Coy's Avatar Topic Author
Cecilia Coy
I was a RVT... I worked in shelters for years.. That's a pit x sharpei mix.. and can be dangerous..not Because of the pit blood line but THE SHARPEI'S!!
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Katie Hills's Avatar Topic Author
Katie Hills
I say all mixed breeds are subject to pet interview. If it walks like a duck.....
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Kacie Loar's Avatar Topic Author
Kacie Loar
We do not have a breed restriction, however, we do a meet and greet before they apply, and if the dog shows any sign of aggression, we cannot accept the pet.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Janet Harris Clemmons's Avatar Topic Author
Janet Harris Clemmons
You can have weight restriction and breed restriction, but the ESA (emotional support animal) you cannot restrict therefore, you may still have the breeds you don't want in your community. We are finding more of these are coming across our attention for us to accept there reasonable accommodation.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Anonymous's Avatar Topic Author
Anonymous
I’m not sure that an opinion over a vets written statement is viable.
I agree, pet interview all. I’ve had more concerns with small dogs, and those not leashed being aggressive; however they’re not considered an aggressive breed.
It’s really not a gray area if the breed is wrote down by the vet, right? Paper trail/documented.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Melissa Bridges's Avatar Topic Author
Melissa Bridges
I go by what is on the vet's shot records.... End of discussion! Not worth fighting in my opinion
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Cindy Harris-Dees's Avatar Topic Author
Cindy Harris-Dees
Definitely a Shar-Pei mix. I have started conducting meet and greets with the dogs regardless of the breed. If they incessantly bark, growl or won’t come near us then it’s declined. The breed isn’t the problem, it’s the owner. The dog has to be reasonably socialized.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Beverly O'Quinn's Avatar Topic Author
Beverly O'Quinn
Restrictions are a lawsuit waiting to happen ... preconceived prejudices
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Janis Thorn Cowey's Avatar Topic Author
Janis Thorn Cowey
Doggie DNA
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Lucy Alvarez's Avatar Topic Author
Lucy Alvarez
He looks like my Cookie Monster! I love him!!
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Amber Coker's Avatar Topic Author
Amber Coker
Looks like a sharpei mix to me... Not only that, but the breeds are usually set for insurance companies, so having a vet record saying it doesn't include a restricted breed releases your community from any liability. I just move on with life when I get the vet record stating breed
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Alicia Chenault Jones's Avatar Topic Author
Alicia Chenault Jones
Looks like a shar pei to me. This is my bonus dog, Nyla. She is a Chinese Sharpei.
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Alicia Chenault Jones's Avatar Topic Author
Alicia Chenault Jones
Chinese sharpeis don't have a lot of wrinkles whe they are full grown.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Kate Good's Avatar Topic Author
Kate Good
We have never had a Pit bite someone but the little dogs do it all the time.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Lisa Nowaski's Avatar Topic Author
Lisa Nowaski
We don’t restrict breeds... we restrict animals with aggressive behaviors.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Jay Young's Avatar Topic Author
Jay Young
My community doesn't restrict aggressive breeds. I have at least 30 pits all are loveable. I'm a pit own as well.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Brittany Stroud's Avatar Topic Author
Brittany Stroud
That is a sharpei mix lol
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Sandie Connell's Avatar Topic Author
Sandie Connell
I allow and then if there are issues deal with the individual dog/owner.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Shauna Riley's Avatar Topic Author
Shauna Riley
Since we are required to restrict breeds, we also have the right to restrict any dogs at our discretion. We require photos of the pet before we can qualify them and if I suspect it is mixed with a restricted breed we can deny it
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Tim N Kelly Hullender's Avatar Topic Author
Tim N Kelly Hullender
Dog restrictions are useless... they all go get ESA paperwork.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Diana Pittro's Avatar Topic Author
Diana Pittro
You have to accept them and hope our industry can be forceful in getting laws changed or adjusted
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Judy Newton's Avatar Topic Author
Judy Newton
Looks like a Sharpei mix
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Sandie Connell's Avatar Topic Author
Sandie Connell
So sad to restrict a family member (pet) because it “might be aggressive”.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Vicki Sharp's Avatar Topic Author
Vicki Sharp
I provide the aggressive breed list and ask the vet to confirm in writing that the dog does not have any of these breeds in the blood line. If they do that, and the dog hurts someone, you have another person to include in the lawsuit. Most likely, a vet isn't going to provide this information.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Rachel Lynette Payton's Avatar Topic Author
Rachel Lynette Payton
You would only be able to sue the vet if they lied. As many pointed out chihuahuas tend to be more aggressive than the “aggressive” breeds. You can’t sue the vet for a chihuahua being aggressive. Also, unless a vet does a dna test, there’s no way to know exactly which breeds a mutt might contain. Vets make their best guess based on how the dog looks.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Vicki Sharp's Avatar Topic Author
Vicki Sharp
I agree. That's why I want the vet to confirm in writing that they do not have any of these breeds in the blood line. No vet with do that, and there is your reason for not accepting them..... unless it's an emotional service animal. That opens up new doors.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Hilltop
I have always been told (when questioning HUD on policies) if it is a service or emotional support animal you can't decide on the breed however if it is a pet and the vets say it is a certain bread manager's are not allowed to interject their own thoughts of what the pet may or may not be. Yes the vets may lie however unless you are ready to possibly take them to court and call them a liar tread carefully.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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hilltop
Vets look at the teeth, bone structure and judge what the breed is without a DNA test and no respectable vet will ever Never swear in writing that it does not have any of the aggressive breed in a mixed animal and I think as a manager that would be stepping over the line to ask them to do so unless you have it in your lease, rules and regs and possibly your tenant selection plan....again tread carefully
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Curious what the parameters of a dog interview would be? It seems like such a gray area.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Aggressive breeds are a misnomer perpetuated by media and bias. Each dog is as unique as their owners.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Anonymous
I have four rescues...my concern with the vet's representation is it's vague. First, unless I know the vet I won't take their word for it. Second, it looks more pit bull than shar pei to me. Third, had on at least two occasions with two different properties we own where a pit bull got loose and attacked either our dog or one of our tenant's dog. Nope, err on the side of caution on this one.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Anonymous
I would ask them to bring in the dog for a meet and greet. It could be a mix of so many things. If the Vet is willing to vouch for the pet on paper I say let the dog in if it passes a simple meet and greet. Looks like the sweetest baby to me. All dogs can attack and the bad reputation of Pit type dogs needs to stop. Everyone and every animal deserve a chance. Innocent until proven guilty. They are the biggest lovers and if shows no aggression when you meet I say allow.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
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Brian Lane
Weight limit will fix the problem. Most aggressive breeds start at about 50lb so do a 45 limit. We have an age minimum too, 18 months. Don't want carpet to be a training pad.
Posted 4 years 1 month ago
Anne Simmons's Avatar Topic Author
Anne Simmons
I clearly see a Pit Bull in the mix, which we do not accept at our communities due to the aggressiveness associated with the Pit Bulls.
Posted 3 years 10 months ago