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Apartment Jobs: On Hiring - "Experience, They have to have Experience!"

Apartment Jobs: On Hiring - "Experience, They have to have Experience!"

[Written for the Multifamily Insiders' Apartment Jobs section]

 

Over the last few months, I've worked with several clients, and advised several friends, as they were going through the hiring process to add new staff members to their companies. 

"I want someone with experience," they'll say to me.  "Gag," I'll say in return.

Well, no, I don't say it.  But I think it really loudly.


Don't get me wrong, experienced employees are a definite asset to any company.  You spend less time training them, you don't have to watch them as closely, and you can just assume they know what they're doing, so you lose less production overall.  But let's take a moment and think about the other things that the "experienced employee" comes with, because, after all, it's a package deal.Apartment Jobs

  1. Their potentially jaded opinion of the business and of your company.  This is what usually is doesn't come out during the interview, but is stored in that sizable chip they keep on their shoulder that you start to notice pretty quickly after they're hired.
  2. Their idea of how "business is done" in property management.  Sometimes as a manager, the nicest thing you can have is an employee who respects your methods, organization, and decisions.
  3. Their bad habits.  I'm not necessary talking about them picking their teeth with the mail, though that's not out of the realm of possibility with some folks I've seen.  No, I'm talking about the bad habits in customer service and professionalism that some people who've been working in our industry have developed over time.  Things like not standing up to greet a client, eating at their desk, being "above" certain jobs, etc. are very detrimental to your work place and once someone develops these kinds for habits, it's kind of hard to get them to change without substantial head trauma.

Back in the day when I worked as a temp staffing agent and trainer for property management, my best employees were the ones who had no experience.  I'd recruit people from retail stores, from hospitals, from restaurants and even people who I saw a spark in as I sat in a coffee shop and chatted with them.  These were the people who, when they attended the training, were thoroughly engaged in the process because they didn't think they knew it all.  They wanted to learn, wanted to impress, and were willing to work hard to get the permanent job. 

Should you dismiss folks with experience? Nope. But you might consider taking that, "Requires 2 years experience," line out of your employment ad.  Invest in training and make people your own.  Don't jump for the hiring shortcut.

 

Heather is a consultant, speaker, and trainer in the Seattle area with BTLD Consulting.  Check out more of her property management ideas at www.behindtheleasingdesk.com !

 

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My 'experience' comes from 15+ years in retail, then I spent 5 years as a floating 'temp'. I never used the word 'temp' as an excuse to NOT do something; rather it was an excuse to seek advice with a solution in mind to present. That said, the 'temp' experience is a good thing, in that it gave me the ability to say that "I HAVE done that, and these were the results" as opposed to "I think I can do this... let's give it a shot". It also gave me the luxury of learning from a lot of perspectives, without the pitfall of complacency and developing bad work habits.

I am always willing to take the lower position, with the thought that I should learn 'Their' way before accepting more responsibility.

  Johnny Karnofsky
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Heather,
I can see the wisdom in your words about training someone new to the industry. I have had a lot of luck with this. On the other hand, is your interview process is thorough, you can sometimes uncover the bad habits and bad attitudes before hiring. When you don't, it is a painful experience. Yet, those experienced, open-minded individuals who are eager to learn a "new way" are real gems.
Stephen Covey writes; "Seek first to understand and then to be understood." If all new employees coud follow that advice, more expereinced employees might be hired. I hired a woman with a Masters Degree in English to work as an Assistant Property Manager. She was awesome. Her experience came from another field entirely. She was intelligent enough to apply her skills to a whole new discipline. In this case, and in many others, I learned some new ways to approach mu business by istening to her ideas. Great Topic!

  Kim Andreadis
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Heather - I hear you. Quite honestly, when I am hiring, I look at the personality, not the experience. Personality I can't train, but skills I can. Usually, when I encounter someone very qualified for a position, the biggest thing that scares me off in the interview (and even prior to that stage) is the fear of "Can I retrain them?"? I get that they may have 15 years in the business, but they haven't had 5 minutes on my property and already they're telling me what they can change. Forget it.
Hire the personality.

  Tara Smiley
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Thanks for the comments! I think what Tara said really sums it up for me: I can train anyone to lease, but if your parents failed to give you a good personality, then there's nothing I can do with you.

I keep telling people that they need to hire the person, not the resume.

Kim, while I agree with you that a thorough interview process is important, there are some people out there who are just REALLY good interviewers. You're bound to have someone slip through sometime.

  Heather Blume
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Heather,

I agree with you. The interview porcess doesn't always pick up on the fakers.

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

Kim

  Kim Andreadis

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