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Seniority Just Means You Weren’t Fired

Seniority Just Means You Weren’t Fired

I was thinking about career growth a while back, and I remember one of my former bosses who was passed up for a promotion.  This was a boss who always handed her work off to her assistant, who would take extra long lunches and leave work early on a consistent basis, and in general didn’t really push her community to do anything special.  But when a job opening came up in the company that she wanted, she was absolutely shocked that she was passed up.  Suddenly I heard cries about how she had seniority, and I have to say, it almost made me laugh out loud when I heard that.  She wasn’t even doing her own job, let alone proving herself worthy of a promotion!  Since then, I have heard people talk about seniority all the time, and I have come to realize that doesn't tell the whole story at all.  They could be incredible employees that have been with the company for 15 years, OR they could be mediocre employees that managed to go 15 years without being fired.

Hiring someone new is really not a fun task, so people are often allowed to coast quite a bit before they are fired.  In other words, people can stay at their job a lot of times by barely getting the minimum done, sad to say.  But after years, they might suddenly find themselves with seniority!  But do years of barely skirting by (or even being average) in any way make them promotion-worthy?

I don't mean to say that seniority means nothing – If two people are providing similar value to their company, and one person has seniority, that person will likely get the nod.  Plus loyalty definitely is important and should be rewarded.  Someone who has been a rockstar AND has been with the company for 15 years has immense value.  But this is a far cry from assuming a promotion is guaranteed purely because of seniority.  Instead, it should be considered one of many potential assets, rather than a golden ticket to a promotion.

I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of flack for this post – who wants to be told that their seniority may not be as valuable as they thought it was?  But in the end, I think that this type of post is needed as a reality check.  Rather than wait for seniority to work its magic, there are probably many other factors that the powers that be care about, and understanding what those factors are will help much more in securing that promotion.

What do you think?  How valuable should seniority be?

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This is an AWESOME topic to discuss. After reading this I am a firm believer in the concept of best person for the best position. Longevity definitely supports the idea of loyalty but that's it. Ideas, initiative, passion and productivity should outweigh seniority. When seniority is partnered with years of high performance then there is no way of combating this but when we get into the thinking of "next in line" then we lose the whole purpose of our industry. Managers should be able to push our industry as innovative thinkers, motivate a team and progression for their company. If this is not the case the whole "seniority" concept goes completely out of the door. As every other industry continues to grow so should the single/multifamily industry and the people as well. Individuals are in charge of their own personal growth and success so the entitlement mindset is detrimental to any companies advancement.

  Jason Richards
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Yes, you will get flack for this post, but yes, you are completely right. I have heard so many sob stories in my day from those who didn't get promoted but didn't do anything to warrant the promotion in the first place. I personally find some value in seniority, but I find much more value in actual results.

  Anonymous
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Since 95% of my high school lives within 15 miles of where they grew up (a fact learned by handling the reunion) there are other factors at work here. I have lived in seven states and amazing cities that I think produced more knowledge and well-rounding of experiences. Call is a gypsy-spirit, adventurous or what it really is - PERSONALITY. Most property management employees leave because of an inferior supervisor. Rock star employees stay for their own reasons but would be remiss not to reach for a higher star, better job/promotion or larger company with more opportunities. Hostile work environments promote movement, as well. What I see going on is people trying to hold on to their jobs in an downed economy. Interesting article Brent. Why don't you write one on outing an average supervisor or hostile work environment next?

  Brenda (McClain) Asbury
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Couldn't agree with you more. Seniority is irrelevant without a history of perfmance, talent and ability. No one "deserves" a promotion but many people are given one by management who confuses seniority with performance.

  Anonymous2
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So far...No flack! And why should there be? We see this a lot in our industry! We call them skaters! Then again Woody Allen said, 80% of life is just showing up! But he didn't say anything about leaving early and long lunches. This kind of behavior does nothing for the staff except show a poor work ethic example. Thanks for posting this. It's far over due!

  RF
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Dear Brent, you hit the nail squarely. I have been in the business for 40 years and have been amazed at the frequent sentiments that seniority is a path to promotion. Performance is the key and in concert with senoirity it works career wonders. In addition, there is benefit to reputation and if a downsize occurs, you are off and running. And I tell my folks, performance is not just about numbers, it is about leadership. You don't have to be a manager to lead-- try leading by example.

  Robert Bentel
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I totally agree with you! Promotion should be based on factors other than seniority! I was in a situation really early in my career. I was 22 and woman 10 years older, who was hired the same day as I was, was promoted to head of our department when our supervisor left. She neither had the skills or the ability to do everything that I was doing. In other words I was doing more than twice the work in the department than she was and she got promoted over me and became my supervisor! This did not work well and soon our Director split the department and gave us each our "case load" and responsibilities. I know longer had to answer to someone who didn't know how to do what I could. It showed in our lease ups each month! I filled my Section 8 Certificates usually a month sooner than she did!

  Carmelia Adams
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I think most anyone would agree that seniority should have low consideration in the promotion process. My experience has been that the value of seniority is a generational thing. Younger workers tend not to feel that seniority matters a lot, that achievement is of more value, while workers 40+ still have more of the "value of seniority" consciousness.

  Chuck Mallory

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